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The Nederlandsche Leeuw is the primary source for information about Gijsbert. It tells us that Gijsbert (1600-1646) was born in Amsterdam. His parents had returned there from Danzig when his father became a citizen of Amsterdam around 1600-1601. His father was a grain merchant in Amsterdam and Danzig.

Gijsbert lived and died in Danzig. Both of his marriages were there and his children were born there. His first marriage was to Anna van Buygen who was 11 years his senior. She died only 2 years after they married. His only child with Anna was a boy named Gijsbert who died as a young child. Gijsbert remarried a year later to Maria van Dijck and all of his surviving children were from this marriage. One of those children was a son they named Gijsbert (1640-1693).

Three of the children of Gijsbert (1600-1646), Philip, Gijsbert and Agneta, married children of Wilhelm Von Roy. It appears that the De Veer family made numerous strategic marriage decisions for commercial reasons. Beyond these relationships with the wealthy Von Roy family, who also had marital links to the wealthy Koenigsberg Marun family, there were a number of marriages between De Veer children and De Momper children. These will be described in the notes relating to Gijsbert (1640-1693).

His son Philipp was an important broker for trade and exchange in Klein Mausdorf, west of Elbing. The date of Philipp's marriage to Magdalena von Roy is stated in the Grandma Database to be 1682; however I can not substantiate this. Philipp's location is important in relation to the whereabouts of a future descendant, Benjamin de Veer. If the de Veer family had a base in Klein Mausdorf, it might explain where Benjamin grew up if he was an orphan.

Gijsbert married Anna Von Buygen,⁶⁷³ daughter of NN Von Buygen ⁷⁰³ and Janneke,⁷⁰³ on 2 Feb 1625 in Danzig. Anna was born on 8 Jun 1589 and died on 15 Feb 1627.Grandma #: 12898

i. Gysbert DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 26 Jan 1626 and died on 23 Dec 1634. {Grandma #: 12899}

i. Philipp DeVeer ⁷⁰⁶ was born on 1 May 1629 in Danzig and died on 26 Apr 1683 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 12901}. Philipp married Magdalena Von Roy.,⁷⁰⁷ daughter of Wilhelm Von Roy ⁶⁷⁴ and Elisabeth Niklassen,.⁶⁷⁵ Magdalena was born about 1637 in Danzig and died on 10 Mar 1683 in Danzig.Grandma #: 426419

ii. Anna DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 14 Oct 1630. {Grandma #: 12902}. Anna married Jacob Janz.⁷⁰³ Grandma #: 426420

iii. Maria DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 16 Feb 1632 and died on 22 Jan 1690. {Grandma #: 12903}

iv. Jacob DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 19 Jul 1633 and died on 17 Jul 1688 in Amersfoort, Netherlands. {Grandma #: 12904}

v. Cornelius DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 26 Oct 1634 and died on 1 Jun 1635. {Grandma #: 12905}

vi. Cornelius DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 13 Apr 1636 in Danzig and died on 27 Nov 1699 in Neugarten, Danzig Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. {Grandma #: 12883}

ix. Debora DeVeer ⁷⁰³ was born on 7 Aug 1642 in Danzig and died on 10 Jan 1683 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 12908}. Debora married Cornelius Kauenhowen ⁷⁰³ on 8 May 1672 in Danzig. Cornelius was baptized on 7 Jun 1671 in Danzig and died on 28 Mar 1687 in Danzig.

x. Agneta DeVeer ⁷⁰⁸ was born on 18 Jul 1644 in Danzig and died on 10 Sep 1680 in Neugarten, Danzig Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Agneta married Peter Von Roy,⁷⁰⁹ son of Wilhelm Von Roy ⁶⁷⁴ and Elisabeth Niklassen,⁶⁷⁵ on 11 May 1670 in Danzig. Peter was born in 1644 in Elbing, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and died on 6 Dec 1698 in Neugarten, Danzig Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.Grandma #: 39935

The Nederlandsche Leeuw genealogy says that she was the second wife of Gijsbert. She was born in Danzig; her parents were Philip van Dijck and Maria Grauwert.

Joachim von Roy says that he was probably a trader in Elbing and not a manufacturer of trimmings. Another genealogist, Volker Ohliger, says "He was probably a merchant and trader in Elbing. The family's origins are obscure. Around 1612 almost all family members were of the Reformed faith. It was only when the three siblings Magdalena, Katharina and Peter von Roy married the three siblings Philipp, Giesbert and Aganetha de Veer and that branch of the family turned to the Mennonite faith. The other family members remained reformed."

His son Peter is a brother to Katarina Von Roy. Herman Thiessen puts his birth date at about 1640 (Hermann Thiessen Film 25, Folder 12, Page 204) but I am going with the date of 1644 from the Nederlandsche Leeuw. I note that in the Grandma Database a woman who died in Danzig in 1669, referred to in the Danzig Church Book only as the wife of Von Roy, is identified as Peter's wife. I doubt this is correct. De Nederlandsche Leeuw mentions nothing about Peter having a previous wife, nor does Joachim von Roy. Joachim von Roy says he was a merchant and handler in the silk and gold trade in Neugarten, as well as the owner of a manufactory for the production of gold, silver and silk trim. He apparently testified on 27 February 1690 before the Council of the City of Danzig that the brothers Cornelius and Gysbert in Alt Schottland, sons of the deceased married couple Gysbert and Maria De Veer, were the sole heirs of their recently deceased, unmarried, sister, Maria De Veer.

I have seen family trees online that include Elisabeth Niklassen as Wilhelm's wife. This is probably carried over from the records of Jan von Roy in Nederlandsche Leeuw who is shown with Elisabeth as his wife. There is no information that I am aware of to substantiate a relationship between Elisabeth and Wilhelm. However it strikes me as possible that although there is confusion about the husband's name, which I believe to be Wilhelm based on Joachim von Roy's research, the wife's name could be correct. Accordingly I have associated her with Wilhelm.

Notes about his family

Son Johann was the owner of a factory for the production of gold, sliver and silk trim. His death is recorded in the list of Mennonite deaths in the Elbing St. Annen Lutheran Church. He is buried in the cemetery of the St Anne Church in Elbing. Apparently his descendants appear occasionally in the Elbing records.

The Nederlandsche Leeuw gives the name of his daughter Magdalena as Magdalena von Rise but the Danzig Church Book gives her name as Magdalena von Roy in her death record, in association with her husband Phillip de Veer and in accordance with Joachim Von Roy.

Wilhelm married Elisabeth Niklassen ⁶⁷⁵ before 1635. Elisabeth was born before 1617 and died on 31 Aug 1669 in Danzig.Grandma #: 764513

i. Johann Von Roy ⁷¹¹ was born about 1635 in Elbing, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and died in Apr 1720 in Elbing, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

ii. Magdalena Von Roy ⁷⁰⁷ was born about 1637 in Danzig and died on 10 Mar 1683 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 426419}. Magdalena married Philipp DeVeer.,⁷⁰⁶ son of Gijsbert DeVeer ⁶⁷² and Maria Van Dijck,.⁶⁷³ Philipp was born on 1 May 1629 in Danzig and died on 26 Apr 1683 in Danzig.Grandma #: 12901

1505 iii. Katharina Von Roy ⁶³⁵ (born in 1639 in Elbing, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - died on 27 Oct 1718 in Danzig). Katharina married Gijsbert DeVeer,⁶³⁴ son of Gijsbert DeVeer ⁶⁷² and Maria Van Dijck,⁶⁷³ on 17 Nov 1669 in Danzig. Gijsbert was born on 23 Feb 1640 in Danzig, was baptized in Amsterdam, Netherlands, and died on 20 Aug 1693 in Danzig.Grandma #: 12907. Katharina next married Jacob Steboy ⁶⁸³ on 1 Dec 1697. Jacob was born in 1662 in Danzig and died on 29 Apr 1736 in Danzig.

iv. Peter Von Roy ⁷⁰⁹ was born in 1644 in Elbing, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and died on 6 Dec 1698 in Neugarten, Danzig Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. {Grandma #: 39935}. Peter married Agneta DeVeer,⁷⁰⁸ daughter of Gijsbert DeVeer ⁶⁷² and Maria Van Dijck,⁶⁷³ on 11 May 1670 in Danzig. Agneta was born on 18 Jul 1644 in Danzig and died on 10 Sep 1680 in Neugarten, Danzig Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Peter next married Catharina Kroecker,⁷¹² daughter of Nikolaus Kroecker, on 19 Oct 1681 in Danzig. Catharina was born about 1646 in Danzig and died on 4 May 1708 in Danzig.

3011. Elisabeth Niklassen ⁶⁷⁵ was born before 1617 and died on 31 Aug 1669 in Danzig. Grandma #: 764513

There is a death record in the Danzig Church Book that simply indicates the Von Roy wife. I suspect it refers to Elizabeth. The Nederlandische Leuw says she is the mother of the various Von Roy children who married into the De Veer family. If we assume this is correct and apply the correction maintained by Joachim Von Roy as to the name of the father, if follows that she is the wife of Wilhelm Von Roy.

3814. Hans Berends ⁷⁰⁰ was born before 1643 in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and died on 4 Jul 1699 in Danzig. Grandma #: 1141605

Jacob Janzen married a daughter of Hans Berends. I speculate that the Hans Berents who died in 1699 is this person. It is unproven. However, there are limited numbers of individuals and considering that the daughters were all listed in the Danzig Church Book as baptized and married within the community it follows that the parents lived in the community served by the Danzig Church. For the same reason I suspect that the wife who died on 20 September 1691 in Alt Schottland in the Danzig Region is the wife of this person. There is no name associated with this wife. I don't find any other Hans Berends who would be appropriate.

His daughter Sancke is the wife of Matis Kraemscke according to the Danzig Church Book death register. She died in 1709 when the plague was decimating Danzig.

Whether younger daughter Judke belongs to him is speculative.

His second wife was Liesbetje Schroeder. All of the information about her is taken from the Danzig Church Books with the exception of her year of birth which is estimated.

Hans married NN before 1663 in Danzig. NN was born before 1643 in Danzig and died on 20 Sep 1691 in Danzig.Grandma #: 1171187

1907 i. Daughter Berends ⁶⁶⁷ (born about 1663 in Danzig). Daughter married Jacob Janzen ⁶⁶⁶ on 22 Aug 1694 in Danzig. Jacob was born about 1668 in Danzig, was baptized on 28 Jun 1693 in Danzig, and died after 1727 in Orlofferfelde, Marienburg Region, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.Grandma #: 1171182

ii. Daughter2 Berends ⁷¹³ was born about 1663 in Danzig, was baptized on 4 Jul 1683 in Danzig, and died on 23 May 1696 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 1141606}. Daughter2 married Isaac Hovenier ⁷¹⁴ on 10 Sep 1684 in Danzig. Isaac was born about 1664 in Danzig, was baptized on 2 Jul 1684 in Danzig, and died on 24 Mar 1728 in Danzig.Grandma #: 255091

iii. Sancke Berends ⁷¹⁵ was born about 1668 in Danzig, was baptized on 11 Jul 1688 in Danzig, and died on 9 Sep 1709 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 1165989}. Sancke married Matis Kraemscke ⁷¹⁶ on 25 Dec 1688 in Danzig. Grandma #: 1165991

iv. Judcke Berends ⁷¹⁷ was born about 1672 in Danzig, was baptized on 5 Jun 1692 in Danzig, and died on 28 Dec 1698 in Danzig. {Grandma #: 1169727}. Judcke married Isaac Raetz ⁶⁷⁸ on 4 Mar 1696 in Danzig. Grandma #: 1169728

Hans next married Liesbetje Schroeder ⁷¹⁹ on 7 Jun 1693 in Danzig. Liesbetje was born about 1670 in Danzig, was baptized on 13 Aug 1690 in Danzig, and died on 4 Dec 1703 in Danzig.

3815. NN was born before 1643 in Danzig and died on 20 Sep 1691 in Danzig. Grandma #: 1171187

NN married Hans Berends ⁷⁰⁰ before 1663 in Danzig. Hans was born before 1643 in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and died on 4 Jul 1699 in Danzig.Grandma #: 1141605

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